I’m writing this as an appeal by a blogger friend, Hsiau Chuen. I came to know bout the news yesterday when she blogged about the demise of her FIL. She was telling about one of her BIL (a family of 8 siblings) converted to Islam sometime ago. Well that’s fine, but upon reading her post, I was totally shocked!!
Apparently, the Islam BIL claimed that the dead father has converted to Islam last year so now the father’s corpse can’t be buried with Buddhist ceremony, but has to wait till Syariah Court decides what to do and probably buried the Islam way. Latest updates from Hsiau Chuen’s sister is that they lost the court case.
I mean how on earth did a father got converted when he’s totally bedridden!! And the best part was nobody in the whole d**n family knew bout it except the Islam BIL himself!! And he had never brought upon this matter until the father died…*fainted*.
Aiyo…ini orang tua already mati. Somemore he’s so old, can’t we just leave him alone and die in peace. Let the family handle it. Why have to go until the court to settle. I really pity the family and the dead one. Have some respect to the dead people please!!!
Can any Muslim reader of this blog out there tell me, if say you converted to Islam, does it mean that your parents gets converted automatically also? I don’t think so right?
And if that is the case, meaning to say next time this family gonna have more problem. Cause when the MIL dies (choi choi) then the BIL again gonna claim she converted *fainted*.
Totally whacky!! Share your thoughts on your blog…what you think of this…
Hmm, i read about it & feel so weird lar the story… dun make sense at all 1…
i don’t think there is such a thing called auto conversion, haven’t heard of it.. but i can go and find out then update you…
Hie,
I thought there should be black and white stating that the father is a Muslim?Use the black and white to talk la. But logically,how can the dad sign the paper or anything when he is bed-ridden?! how?!Could it be the son has got other motif?!Common Sense! But its known that if the deceased is a Muslim s/he has to be buried in the Muslim way.
Well,lets just hope that everything is going well.
there’s no such thing as automatic conversions. you have to have two witnesses and say the syahadah (proclaiming there’s only one God and accepting his messenger) clearly. i read the article (from the link) about this and it seems they have paperwork and all to prove that he did in fact convert. this is a sensitive issue. only people who know will know what happen. but a muslim should be buried the muslim way (just like how the christians should be in their own way and other religions too) so if the son knows that his father has converted to islam then it is his duty to bury his father the muslim way.
wow.. i like your header la jazz..so cute!!!
wow, i didnt know abt this until i read yr post. hmmm, will ask some of my muslim friends abt this issue and up date you here….
i was wondering about this case also. Its crazy la.. obviously the elder brother secretly went to the hospital to secretly convert the father without anyone knowing. Abit sick right? Ppl already dead, cannot even have a peaceful funeral. So cham..
condolences to Hsiau Chuen & her in-laws family.
nobody knows what is going on back then. what did the elder son has to say?
does it matter how he is buried? isn’t having the memory of him alive is more important than the funeral?
I thought i read in the news that the Islam department had documents to proof that the father converted… so I wonder what is the procedure to convert to islam? do u have to sign anything? If yes how did a bedridden man sign something to convert him to Islam? Did the BIL forged the signature?
ask for proof!
This sounds similar to a recent case that was brought up in the papers.
Yikes! I read about the news…. so pitiful lar
As I remembered, to convert to Muslim, one has to attend some courses (coz I have a cousin who almost married a Malay man) before they can convert. So, if a person who is bed ridden, how to attend course???
I readed about this in the paper & after reading your friend blog….Hmm a very complicated issue. If the SIL have the good intention as Muslim to convert the family then I might be able to accept it..But so far what is his motive behind it? This is another bad testimonial for Muslim too……This not the first time this kind of thing happen when someone converted..There was a few cases recently when Muslim convert to Christian.
it is also a sign/warning to others to think twice before you decide to change your religion…
as i what i commented in Hsiau Chuen, the man is dead, they should just move on with life. I wonder if they fought and went to court to determine who to take care of him when he was suffering a stroke. I always hold on this, that care and love should only shown to the person when he/she is still alive!
ps. someone actually said shame on me for commenting like this. what they r doing, fighting in court for the world to see lagi shameful la…
Dear laundryamah,
like what my sister has replied to your comment, you will not know the pains and heartbreak that this family is having coz you are not the party involved.
Fighting in court is not a show to outsider but to fulfill the responsibilities as the children in ensuring that the father have the peace in afterlife.
Quoting an example given by the commentator in my sister’s blog: how would you feel if your childrens converted your husband and buried it in a muslim cemetery? Would you said this to yourself “never mind lah.. take la. take whatever you want. I have already taken good care for him while he is alive, it matters not to me where his body is buried since he already dead?”
Think first before commenting..
wow…i didn’t know you knew this family. I read about it in the newspaper. It’s so sad. Really dunno why people have to fight over religion. The poor man has already passed on. May he rest in peace.
first, love your header! as always 🙂
no, parents or siblings do not have to convert at all. no such thing. is it possible that his dad may have converted some time back? if the syariah court is handling the case, or perhaps the BIL has all the documents backing the claim, he should have legal papers of his father’s conversion and the date of it. it should all be in black and white.
why would this BIL forge the whole thing? what good does it bring him? may it afterall, be the truth, that his dad converted? and it can be done privately and discreetly, in this case, no one in the family knows.
jazzmint, sorry, pressed the submit button before i wanted to add more. do not mistake me as a pro-muslim. in fact, i don’t like the religion at all, although i do have a few good muslim friends. i for one, do not let religion set us apart. having said that, i do know that the muslim community will go all out of their way to help their converts to their benefits, and that to me, is sick.
any muslim friends reading this, do not bombard me, i mean no ill intentions. but i happened to personally witness such saga many years back. it was like a game of tug of war. them trying to brainwash the person to convert while the family was torn apart. and the worst part is, no one is allowed to renounce once they are converted. they could be jailed. what good is it using FORCE?
may your sis’ FIL rest in peace.
Please visit their family website regarding this issue. I went to read the family blog yesterday. They have a new
It is quite curious for me to say that why a thumb print without any witnesses are able to accept as the proof document for a person to convert. then if a son what to inherit all their parent wealth, what he need to do is to get his father/mother thumb print or even better any thumb print will do and cubmit this to the islamic authorities. then when they died, claim them as muslim and you will inherit all the parent’s wealth. easy right to convert! Senang mah…. nak harta convert and get your parent thumb print and convert them also. When they died, buried them as Muslim and later claim all their money, property and you can be rich in a second….